gas and CO detectors. the
a Single Complete Design File in
$50. performs extremely well
desired. 1:12
comment that applies if you are modifying the "Reil or EZ Burners"
the bell diameter. Robert Grauman
The "Reil Burner" is a
However, the higher temperature creates a greater thermal gradient
or three are all that is necessary, and two will probably be enough in most
that
Notes The first several firings should be short in duration and not at a high temperature to allow the castable to cure. The Tweco
other burner types, use the BTU Calculator,
Stop when your have fully penetrated the outer layer of Kaowool. economical, and more efficient. Test for leaks around the joints using some soapy water. I have finally had
found that my forge needs no choke or intake air controls, and runs
or you may end up with a forge that is too cold to
if
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Based on the
easily
design that you may
to
flash
cases. Use care and good sense in using any of these
least as much as I can determine at this point. gas
nozzle placement in the forge:
It burns quietly. on to a wider audience. leave
Also,
The problem was that the nozzles got yellow+++ hot and
These are
design
Please contact me at (208) 462-4028. his tireless hours of modification and development. If
internal rate of flare...it is not just a coupling. burners
down into the ounces range. If you
save
The burner is 100% copper and
If it detects CO, it will sound
See the FAQ for a listing of
same thing. Be
over the end of the burner. the top end of the fitting where the jet pipe enters, perhaps a 1" x
These are not exact, and may not even result in a successful
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is that the (Micromongo) burner is too hot for the current nozzle
Series" section. apparent
With this arrangement you can
That equates to about 0.21
doesn't show on my gage at all, but it is probably about 1/10 psi, and
environment
interior of the
sure to read the FAQ that goes with this
The rate of boiling is dependent on the tank area and ambient temperature. Unfortunately,
involved will not cause you any problems. I did a cast iron melt with the Minimongo today. a
of high quality Side-arm burners. We
Here are a few helpful links. I already had a blower I had bought from Blacksmith Depot that was being sold as suitable for propane forges (their $100, 112 CFM blower). be necessary due to the thin wall of the copper pipe. for 1:12 hrs, melting 15# of cast iron while running the burner at 20
burners from this
Additionally, never operate a forge that is connected directly to a propane tank located near a forge, or indoors. at the top of this section.). keep in
superior,
designs. CNC 3018 Router and Laser Kit- Part 4 Dry Moly Lub... Blog — Haburn Knives - Handmade Stainless & Carbon Steel Knives and Tools. I have reduced
Tweco tips discussed above,
It should be plenty detailed to allow
name but a few. will
system on the forge, allowing Wayne to open his forge like a clam-shell. Was: C $522.28. built two air choke assemblies, using a 1-1/4" short
skin. operating the forge, and the quality of the forge, will be the most
version
If you lower the output of the Micromongo so that
designs on my pages. you
tip,
The "Reil Burner" will
"Kidde Safety"
The cost of building it averages about $5 US,
that these burners can produce, then you are responsible for not
To
You can build this burner more easily if
In order to build this forge burner, ⦠Image - Ideal Neutral Flame, 2) Side-arm
you will have to experiment with the jet diameter to find the proper
burner
by
composite image of six
chamber,
has been experimenting
tuning
any liability for the stupidity of the builder and user of this device
are
He has also
is necessary to provide the needed intake air flow volume for a 3/4"
various smiths, some noted on the drawing. long
ratio of 1:300 or less. additional
due to the 1/8" thickness of the burner tube wall. You pay for what you get. pretty small
burner tube (Air starved)
Note:
going
They are threaded, 1/4"x 28
I include it here because the jet orifice information
Please note that
These are hand drawings with hand written notes. To obtain model number and specific clearance information, refer to the furnace rating plate, located inside ⦠They
For historical purposes, and to keep information
burner tube
This was after only about 15 minutes of experimentation. past the threads. air it can draw
came up with this version, and it has good operating characteristics. need 3 burners for your planned forge volume. were you will find it. smith
that
a #56 jet in it while the Monster burner had a #54 jet. carefully
don't wear eye protection, and you loose your eyesight due to the UV
when the forge is not in use, it will force the Kaowool to take a set,
burners or forge. will
assembly
best
that out. and you will understand my last comment. The Mongo Burner
I also want to be able to use the forge upright for melting aluminum and other alloys. question that this burner is quieter than other burners I have
Nanomongo burner if you
design. This burner has tremendous adjustability in its output, making it
with
1-1/4" diameter by 12" long
modifications to the burner design. violates
to
reach
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following e-mail I received. Nanomongo Burner
all Six Construction Drawings in
Screed it across for a level surface. smiths who are very knowledgeable would say a more conservative ratio
burner
orifice
Burner = 2-1/2" diameter
As pipe bushings are not
Craigslist has listings for propane tank for sale in the Olympic Peninsula area. At your high end gas
burners on my 24" long cylindrical
$27.00. to the greatly increased performance they afford. can
separate files that are all hot linked and indexed. If yours looks like these images, you have it
has now been perfected and can be found at the bottom of this section. "pdf" Format (Recommended - 16K), Download
It is a an oxidizing flame. without
It runs on 110 VAC, and has a 12
and
I know of at least two smiths currently using them with
If the line drawing linked above isn't
sheet. necessity), I got right to work. http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml99/99082.html. leakage
$190.39 FREE SHIPPING. steel
for this suggestion, and the induction ratio information above.) bore! hardware store. The plug will need to have a
the plug and bushing and installed a set screw to clamp the fuel pipe
Do you need to flare out or taper the 1" schedule 40 pipe at all or do you leave it straight? the Kaowool with your fingers to allow the plug to seat home against
extremely efficient burner, use the modified Aussie design. file as a Reduced Size "gif" Image, Download
determined that the secondary set of smaller air intake holes toward
click the "Propane Burner" link. for our jets,
are numerous
different
), ***
The entire air intake assembly will be shortened and
world! Great potential. to
Burner
will function with natural gas if sufficient pressure is available, but
that the metal part of the burner NOT be inside the cavity of the forge. for kilns, but the possible CO dangers need to be considered and
I was contacted by
achieve the melt more quickly, which cuts the time available for heat
from Rupert Wenig
combination explosive gas and CO detector available in local hardware,
If your e-mail is not
mind. However, every
determined that
Thanks
The Side-arm burner
Nozzle:
choke
tried.". of high quality Side-arm burners, Parts
kind of flammable gas it will instantly sound an audible alarm, and the
went erratic. There are numerous ways to mount the burner. If you want a very simple
error in the Adobe Acrobat "pdf" file below. materials. (This excellent image was taken by my apprentice, Kevin Brown). pressure range you can actually feel the air suction with your hand at
I do want to say that I strongly suggest the
a reduced size image of the "pdf" construction file. All the images were shot at a
once
in Alaska
drilled hole ports are too small to provide the necessary intake air
firing it I was unable to run it below 20 psi or it would become
determine the optimum jet opening)
because
I will no longer be able to troubleshoot your system. section, and use
building
Propane heat is still able to reach forge welding temperatures so the capabilities of the forge are not diminished. included
Thus, LPG requires nearly 30 times its volume of air to burn correctly. very
The liquid in a tank boils and the vapour is burned. Think about
least 450 BTUs per cubic inch of forge chamber
will provide a high pressure tap off the household service, up to 80
to use this tip. Really more to smooth the transition. burner flame across the full pressure range. for a larger view. concerning the use of natural
Nextgrill 2 burner propane grill and tank $60 (Kenmore) pic hide this posting restore restore this posting. to do with it, just the choke settings. for you. There is a very reasonably priced digital
I am not including a drawing for this modification, as it is
update my blacksmithing pages, and will now also have the time to clean
Always plan
in the right location in relation to the incoming air. Please see the latest Side-arm information at the top
in. the rear and reduced to three in number in the next version. the
should try to obtain the Tweco tip configuration that measures 1-1/2"x
The
I used four Reil
but they are a starting place for designing your own propane forge
In order to do this one needs hot and fast heat. &
note about galvanized pipe. If you are
Note about burner
possible alternative to
No problem attaining forge welding heat with this forge. I finally got around to building a forge with the burner a few weeks ago. He was unable
take
design as shown at the top of this
Use stainless steel. Forge and
factors in determining overall economy, not the burner. By leaving the plug in
a semi. burner discussed above, which is easier to build and produces a fully
This is not set in stone this gives you a good starting point when setting your pressure, a lot depends on your forge size regulator however. discussing
1/4,"
Choke
examples
I am now averaging two to three virused e-mails each time I
The ORIGINAL HELLS FORGE BRAND ~ MADE IN ⦠amount
flare
breakdown image for the
only
value. Replacement parts for propane melting furnaces and forges. I did not have my most accurate gage on the system, so
read
not built correctly, and you will need to make some adjustments after
called off in the information below which will provide a good starting
to
= 3/4" diameter burner
for remote mounting up to 6' from the plug. of the Mongo Burner information, regards UV radiation hazard. more fuel to do this. The project is to design, build, and test a propane forge that will improve the quality and ease of knife making over a coal forge and is big enough to fit other tools such as hammers and ⦠I'm looking at setting up a forge in my shop in the next year. Please read
good
of the 1/4" tube shown in the drawing. passed
favorite this post Oct 29 You can easily enough get a "propane jet diameter/BTU output
As Michael mentioned to me, in the
the Reil or EZ Burners. This has
out
melt
I received a communication
This
explains its
after
is called the "Nighthawk." interesting test. tips in various jet diameters and external configurations available. of a 1/8" brass jet tube. of
form up some type of ceramic nozzle and start experimenting with this
be the same. Ray Maiara
It will sustain a controlled flame with propane
detector paragraph), http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml99/99082.html, some
and a natural gas fireplace insert. rapid
has built one
higher temperatures than the Reil Burner can attain, but this will cost
In the lower pressure range of from 1-6
The burner
Free shipping. joint
Brake Drum Forges, A Preface for All Burners on This
I used a half round file and worked around the inside maybe a dozen times. them later. maintaining
capability makes it a very special burner indeed. the Winter 2000 issue of "Hot Iron News" that I think needs to be
working each evening of the week to a stand still. I live at an elevation of 2300 feet, and I can easily weld with only
It is made up of three
You
totally
elevation,
The images on the right were taken
If you come out to a burner requirement of 2-1/3 burners, then you
vacuum is very
long. radiation
Test for leaks around the joints using some soapy water. By all means do use it
chamber heated with a Reil Burner, the fuel usage, or economy,
Buy and sell locally. the
& explosive gas
We found this "step"
Best wishes,Dan, Dan,Totally appreciate the scope and depth of information you have offered to share. here, its free. Zipped "gif" Format (264K), (Before
pressures
When casting the top, this takes about two 5 pound bags, (open side up) prop the shell so that the casting is to the burner side and pour and screed about 2/3âs and let set available that may be of use to someone, I have not removed the
burner, shown with "axial" choke installed, which
Burner":
"T"
over
well
My Personal Observations:
Based on how far the choke needed to be closed I think I
shop. until the burners
-Additional changes in Rupert's own words: "I
burner using a.035 contact for general forge work is 7 to 8 psi. continuing, but here are his latest design modification details. The preview image
I have simply run scans
I would say that this compares
modify
I am about to forge-weld a Spontoon pipe-ax head. I will not go into the
a
Every single burner forge is designed to work with smaller projects. It
The coupling that
It is apparent
gas pressures, and can be cranked up to almost 200,000 BTUs by raising
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